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Men Suit - 02012502
SMLXLXXL
$54.95
Two-piece dress set for men (Kameez and Pajama) in regular fit. Top and pant fabrics are Wash & Wear. The suit is stitched as shown and ready to wear, reducing...
Men Suit - 02012501
SMLXLXXL
$54.95
Men Suit - 02012501 is a 2 piece dress set (Kameez and Pajama) in Regular Fit. The top and pant use Wash & Wear fabrics for easy care. The suit...
Men Suit - 01232508
SMLXLXXL
$54.95
Men Suit - 01232508 is a 2-piece dress with a Kameez and Shalwar. The top and pant use Wash & Wear fabric designed for easy care. The set is stitched...
Men Suit - 01232507
SMLXLXXL
$54.95
Dress Type: 2 Piece (Kameez Shalwar). Fit: Regular. Top Fabric: Wash & Wear. Pant Fabric: Wash & Wear. Collection: Stitched. Status: Stitched - Ready to Wear. Brand: S&T Men. Color...
Men Suit - 01232506
SMLXLXXL
$54.95
2 Piece Kameez Shalwar suit in regular fit by S&T Men. It is stitched and ready to wear, designed for pairing with footwear and accessories. Dress Type: 2 Piece (Kameez...
Men Suit - 01232505
SMLXLXXL
$54.95
This is a 2 piece Kameez Shalwar suit in regular fit. The top and pant use Wash & Wear fabrics. It is stitched and ready to wear by S&T Men....
Men Suit - 01232504
SMLXLXXL
$54.95
Two-piece suit: kameez shalwar in regular fit. The set includes a top and a pant. The top and pant are designed to be worn together. Top fabric is wash &...
Men Suit - 01232502
SMLXLXXL
$54.95
2 Piece dress set for men: kameez and shalwar. Regular fit. Top fabric is wash & wear. Pant fabric is wash & wear. The set is stitched and ready to...
Men Suit - 01232501
SMLXLXXL
$54.95
Men Suit - 01232501 is a 2 piece Kameez Shalwar dress set in regular fit. Top fabric is Wash and Wear; pant fabric is Wash and Wear for easy care....
Men Kurta - 09222410
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta by S&T Men, style 09222410. A single-piece kurta in regular fit, designed for ready-to-wear use. Suitable for casual and semi-formal occasions. Dress Type: b> 1 Piece Kurta designed...
Men Kurta - 09222409
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men's kurta, one piece, regular fit. Fabric: Satan Fancy Embroidery. Collection: Stitched. Status: Stitched — Ready to Wear. Brand: S&T Men. The kurta is supplied stitched as shown and ready...
Men Kurta - 09222407
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09222407 is a stitched, ready-to-wear kurta built for regular fit. Dress Type: 1 Piece Kurta Fit: Regular Fabric: Satan Fancy Embroidery Status: Stitched - Ready to Wear...
Men Kurta - 09222406
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Product: Men Kurta, 1 piece with regular fit. Status: stitched and ready to wear. Brand: S&T Men. Collection: Stitched. Fabric: Satan Fancy Embroidery. The garment is finished and stitched for...
Men Kurta - 09222405
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09222405 is a 1-piece kurta with a regular fit. Fabric: Satan Fancy Embroidery. The item is stitched as shown and ships ready to wear. Brand: S&T Men....
Men Kurta - 09222404
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09222404 is a 1-piece kurta in regular fit. Fabric: Satan Fancy Embroidery. Collection: Stitched. Status: Stitched - Ready to Wear. Brand: S&T Men. The product is stitched...
Men Kurta - 09222403
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09222403 is a stitched, ready-to-wear kurta in regular fit. Dress Type: 1 Piece (Kurta) Fit: Regular Fabric: Satan Fancy Embroidery Status: Stitched - Ready to Wear Brand:...
Men Kurta - 09222402
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta, model 09222402. This is a 1-piece kurta in regular fit. Fabric features Satan Fancy Embroidery suitable for formal and festive events. The garment is stitched and ready to...
Men Kurta - 09222401
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09222401. Dress Type: 1 Piece Kurta. Fit: Regular. Fabric: Satan Fancy Embroidery. Status: Stitched - Ready to Wear. Brand: S&T Men. Size: Standard. Dress Type: 1 Piece...
Men Kurta - 09202406
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09202406 is a one-piece, stitched kurta ready to wear. It has a smart fit and Satan Embroidery fabric for a formal look. It is well stitched to...
Men Kurta - 09202404
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09202404 is a stitched, ready-to-wear kurta for everyday use, for office, events, and casual gatherings. Dress Type: 1 Piece (Kurta) Fit: Smart Fabric: Satan Fancy Embroidery Collection:...
Men Kurta - 09202402
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta — 09202402. Dress Type: 1 Piece Kurta. This garment is stitched and ready to wear. Fabric is Satan Fancy Embroidery. It is from the Stitched collection and carries...
Men Kurta - 09202401
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09202401. A one-piece kurta with a smart fit. It is stitched and ready to wear. Use it for office, events, and daily wear. It uses Satan Fancy...
Men Suit - 09102402
SMLXLXXL
$59.95
This Men Suit is a 2 piece dress set: Kurta + Pajama. It is a regular fit. The top and pant fabrics are Wash & Wear. The set is stitched...
Men Suit - 09102401
SMLXLXXL
$59.95
Product code 09102401. 2-piece kurta and pajama set in regular fit. Type: Kurta + Pajama Fit: Regular Fabric: Top and pant are Wash & Wear Finish: Stitched, ready to wear...
Men Kurta - 09062458
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09062458 is a 1 piece kurta with a smart fit. Fabric features Satan Fancy Embroidery. The item is stitched and ready to wear. Brand: S&T Men Dress...
Men Kurta - 09062454
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09062454 is a stitched, ready-to-wear kurta in raw silk. It is cut for a smart fit and includes decorative embroidery. The lightweight fabric drapes well and requires...
Men Kurta - 09062452
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta – 09062452 is a one-piece kurta with a smart fit. Fabric is raw silk, offering structure and drape. The garment features fancy embroidery on the front. Status is...
Men Kurta - 09062450
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09062450 is a 1-piece kurta. The fabric is raw silk with embroidery. It is part of the stitched collection and is delivered stitched and ready to wear....
Men Kurta - 09062448
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta in cotton silk. This is a 1-piece kurta, stitched and ready to wear. It uses a cotton silk blend for drape and wear. The cut is a smart...
Men Kurta - 09062447
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Product: Men Kurta - 09062447. Type: 1 Piece Kurta. Fabric: Cotton Silk. Fit: Smart. This piece is stitched and ready to wear; no additional tailoring is required. Brand: S&T Men....
Men Kurta - 09062445
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09062445. Dress Type: 1 Piece (Kurta). Fit: Smart. Fabric: Cotton Silk. Embroidery. Collection: Stitched. Status: Stitched – Ready to Wear. Brand: S&T Men. This item is stitched...
Men Kurta - 09062444
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09062444 is a stitched, ready-to-wear kurta for everyday use. It uses cotton silk for fabric and a smart fit that drapes well. The kurta features embroidery for...
Men Kurta - 09062443
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta, 1 piece. Fabric: cotton silk with embroidery. Cut: smart fit. Status: stitched and ready to wear. Brand: S&T Men. Dress Type: 1 Piece Kurta Fabric: Cotton Silk Embroidery:...
Men Kurta - 09062442
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men kurta, 09062442. A 1-piece kurta in raw silk with a smart fit. The garment is stitched and ready to wear. It carries embroidery and belongs to the Stitched collection...
Men Kurta - 09062440
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09062440 is a 1-piece kurta in raw silk. It features fancy embroidery and a smart fit. The garment is stitched and ready to wear, enabling immediate use....
Men Kurta - 09062438
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09062438. Dress Type: 1 Piece Kurta. Fit: Smart. Fabric: Raw silk Embroidery: Embroidered design Collection: Stitched Status: Stitched, ready to wear Brand: S&T Men Colors may differ...
Men Kurta - 09062437
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta in raw silk for formal and festive wear. Dress Type: 1 Piece (Kurta). Fabric: Raw Silk. Front embroidery. Hand-stitched finish. Collection: stitched. Status: stitched - ready to wear....
Men Kurta - 09062434
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09062434. Type: 1 Piece kurta. Fit: Smart. Fabric: Jamawar. Embroidery: Fancy design. Status: Stitched, ready to wear. Brand: S&T Men. This item ships stitched, as shown in...
Men Kurta - 09062432
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Product: Men Kurta, 1 piece, stitched and ready to wear. Fabric: Jamawar with embroidery. Fit: Smart fit. Brand: S&T Men. Collection: Stitched, ready-to-wear. Note: Colors may vary slightly from the...
Men Kurta - 09062431
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Type: 1 Piece Kurta. Fit: Smart. Fabric: Jamawar. Embroidery: Fancy. Collection: Stitched. Status: Stitched - Ready to Wear. Brand: S&T Men. The kurta ships fully stitched as shown, designed for...
Men Kurta - 09062426
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09062426 offers a ready-to-wear kameez in raw silk. It has a smart fit and embroidery. The item is stitched for immediate wear. Brand: S&T Men. Dress type:...
Men Kurta - 09062420
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09062420 is a stitched, ready-to-wear kurta (kameez) in one piece. It uses a smart fit for daily and semi-formal wear. The fabric is Satan Fancy Embroidery, chosen...
Men Kurta - 09062419
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Product: Men Kurta - 09062419. Type: 1 Piece (Kameez). Fit: Smart fit. Ready to wear straight from packaging. Fabric and Embroidery: Satan Fancy Embroidery. Construction: It is stitched and ready...
Men Kurta - 09062417
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09062417 is a stitched cotton kurta (kameez) in a one-piece dress style. It has a smart fit and is ready to wear. Brand: S&T Men. Dress Type:...
Men Kurta - 09062416
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Product Men Kurta - 09062416. Type: 1 Piece Kameez. Fabric: cotton. Fit: smart. Construction Stitched, ready to wear. Brand: S&T Men. Design notes Cotton fabric offers breathability. The piece is...
Men Kurta - 09062415
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09062415 is a 1 Piece (Kameez) kurta in cotton with a smart fit. The item is stitched and ready to wear from the S&T Men embroidery collection....
Men Kurta - 09062414
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09062414 Dress type: 1 piece (Kameez). Fabric: cotton. Fit: standard. The kurta is stitched as shown and sold as ready to wear. Brand: S&T Men today. Stitching...
Men Kurta - 09062413
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta in cotton fabric. The garment is a 1 piece kameez with a smart fit. It is stitched and ready to wear. Brand: S&T Men. It belongs to the...
Men Kurta - 09062412
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
The Men Kurta, model 09062412, is a stitched, ready-to-wear cotton kameez. It is a 1-piece dress with smart fit and embroidery. The design comes from the stitched collection and is...
Men Kurta - 09062411
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
This men's kurta is a 1-piece kameez designed in a smart fit. It uses cotton fabric for breathability and all-day comfort. The front features fancy embroidery that adds visual detail...
Men Kurta - 09062410
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09062410 is a one-piece kameez with a smart fit. It uses cotton fabric and includes embroidery. The kurta is stitched and ready to wear. Cotton fabric provides...
Men Kurta - 09062409
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Product: Men Kurta - 09062409. Type: 1-piece kameez in cotton fabric for comfort and breathability; suitable for formal and casual occasions. Fit: Smart, tailored silhouette designed for daily wear. Construction:...
Men Kurta - 09062408
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
This Men Kurta is a 1-piece kameez in cotton fabric. It features a smart fit and fancy embroidery. The garment is stitched and ready to wear from S&T Men, designed...
Men Kurta - 09062407
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09062407 is a 1-piece kameez in cotton. It is stitched and ready to wear. The fit is smart and the embroidery is included. Product type: 1-piece kurta...
Men Kurta - 09062404
SMLXLXXL
$94.95$47.48
Men Kurta - 09062404 is a stitched, ready-to-wear kameez. Fabric: Jamawar with embroidery. It ships stitched from S&T Men and requires no alterations. The item is part of a stitched...
Prince Coat - 03152405
FreesizeSMLXL
$269.95
Dress Type: 1 Piece (Prince Coat)  Top Fabric :   Collection: Stitched Status: Stitched - Ready to Wear Brand: S&T Men * String & Thread retails all Original brands products and all dresses / tops are...
Prince Coat - 03152404
FreesizeSMLXL
$269.95
Dress Type: 1 Piece (Prince Coat)  Top Fabric :   Collection: Stitched Status: Stitched - Ready to Wear Brand: S&T Men * String & Thread retails all Original brands products and all dresses / tops are...
Prince Coat - 03152402
Freesize
$269.95
Dress Type: 1 Piece (Prince Coat)  Top Fabric :   Collection: Stitched Status: Stitched - Ready to Wear Brand: S&T Men * String & Thread retails all Original brands products and all dresses / tops are...
Prince Coat - 03152401
FreesizeSMLXL
$269.95
Dress Type: 1 Piece (Prince Coat)  Top Fabric :   Collection: Stitched Status: Stitched - Ready to Wear Brand: S&T Men * String & Thread retails all Original brands products and all dresses / tops are...
Men Kurta - 02292412
SMLXL
$34.95$17.48
Men Kurta - 02292412 is a stitched, single-piece kurta. The fabric is Khaddi Cotton for breathability and comfort. It offers Smart Fit and Regular Fit options, suitable for daily wear...
Men Kurta - 02292411
SMLXL
$34.95$17.48
Men Kurta, style 02292411, crafted in Khaddi Cotton. This 1-piece kurta is stitched and ready to wear. It provides Smart Fit and Regular Fit options for comfort and versatility. The...
Men Kurta - 02292410
SMLXL
$34.95$17.48
Men Kurta - 02292410 from S&T Men is a stitched, ready-to-wear kurta. The top fabric is Khaddi Cotton. It offers two fits: smart fit and regular fit. The item is...
Men Kurta - 02292409
SMLXL
$34.95$17.48
One-piece kurta in Khaddi Cotton. Stitched and ready to wear by String & Thread for S&T Men. The kit offers Smart Fit and Regular Fit options for daily wear. Construction...
Men Kurta - 02292408
SMLXL
$34.95$17.48
Men Kurta - 02292408 is a stitched, ready-to-wear piece in Khaddi cotton. It is offered in Smart Fit and Regular Fit. The top fabric is Khaddi cotton. This item is...
Men Kurta - 02292407
SMLXL
$34.95$17.48
Men Kurta - 02292407 Dress Type: 1 Piece Kurta Fit: Smart Fit and Regular Fit Top Fabric: Khaddi Cotton Collection Status: Stitched, Ready to Wear Brand: S&T Men Stitching Notes:...
Men Kurta - 02292406
SMLXL
$34.95$17.48
Men Kurta in Khaddi Cotton is a stitched, ready-to-wear top from S&T Men. It is available in Smart Fit and Regular Fit to suit different body types. The piece is...
Men Kurta -02292405
SMLXL
$34.95$17.48
This is a men’s kurta, 1 piece. It offers Smart Fit and Regular Fit options. The top fabric is Khaddi cotton. The kurta is stitched and ready to wear, branded...
Men Kurta - 02292404
SMLXL
$34.95$17.48
This is a men's kurta, 1 piece. It is stitched and ready to wear. The fabric is Khaddi cotton. Available in two fit options for selection. Dress type: 1 piece...
Men Kurta - 02292403
SMLXL
$34.95$17.48
Men Kurta – 02292403 is a 1-piece, stitched kurta ready to wear. It offers Smart Fit and Regular Fit options to suit different preferences. The top fabric is Khaddi Cotton,...
Men Kurta - 02292402
SMLXL
$34.95$17.48
Men Kurta - 02292402 is a stitched kurta in Khaddi Cotton. It provides Smart Fit and Regular Fit options for different wear needs. The garment is stitched and ready to...
Men Kurta - 02292401
SMLXL
$34.95$17.48
Men Kurta - 02292401 The kurta is a 1-piece, stitched product from S&T Men. It is ready to wear. Fabric: Khaddi Cotton. Fit options: Smart Fit and Regular Fit. Construction:...
Men Suit - 02282302
SMLXLXXL
$59.95
Men's suit, 2 piece Kameez Shalwar in regular fit. Top fabric is wash & wear; pant fabric is wash & wear. It arrives stitched and ready to wear with standard...
Men Suit - 02282304
SMLXLXXL
$59.95
Two-piece men's dress set (Kameez Shalwar) with a regular-fit top and wash & wear pant. Fabric: wash & wear for both top and pant, offering easy care and durability. The...
Men Suit - 02282305
SMLXLXXL
$59.95
Two-piece stitched suit (Kameez Shalwar) in regular fit. Top and pant fabrics are wash & wear for easy care. The set is stitched and ready to wear. It is ready...
Men Suit - 02272303
SMLXLXXL
$59.95
2 Piece Kurta + Pajama set in regular fit. Top fabric: Wash & Wear. Pant fabric: Wash & Wear. The item is stitched and ready to wear. Brand: S&T Men....
Men Suit - 02272301
SMLXLXXL
$59.95
2-piece kurta and pajama set in regular fit. Top and pant use wash & wear fabric. The set is stitched and ready to wear. Brand: S&T Men. Dress Type: 2...
Prince Coat - 12202309
SMLXL
$174.95
Dress Type 1-Piece ( Prince Coat )  Fit: Regular Fit Prince Coat Fabric: Jamawar Collection: Stitched Status: Stitched - Ready to Wear Brand: S&T Men * String & Thread retails all Original brands products and...
Prince Coat - 12202308
SMLXL
$174.95
Dress Type 1-Piece ( Prince Coat )  Fit: Regular Fit Prince Coat Fabric: Jamawar  Collection: Stitched Status: Stitched - Ready to Wear Brand: S&T Men * String & Thread retails all Original brands products and...
Prince Coat - 12202306
SMLXL
$174.95
Dress Type 1-Piece ( Prince Coat )  Fit: Regular Fit Prince Coat Fabric: Jamawar   Collection: Stitched Status: Stitched - Ready to Wear Brand: S&T Men * String & Thread retails all Original brands products...
Prince Coat - 12202305
SMLXL
$174.95
Dress Type 1-Piece ( Prince Coat )  Fit: Regular Fit Prince Coat Fabric: Jamawar Collection: Stitched Status: Stitched - Ready to Wear Brand: S&T Men * String & Thread retails all Original brands products and...
Prince Coat - 12202301
SMLXL
$174.95
Dress Type 1-Piece ( Prince Coat )  Fit: Regular Fit Prince Coat Fabric: Jamawar   Collection: Stitched Status: Stitched - Ready to Wear Brand: S&T Men * String & Thread retails all Original brands products...
Men - Kurta 11292318
SMLXL
$79.95$39.98
Men's kurta in cotton-silk for everyday wear. The smart fit provides clean lines and comfortable movement. The fabric blends cotton and silk for a light, smooth drape and moderate breathability....
Men - Kurta 11292316
SMLXL
$79.95$39.98
This men's kurta is stitched and ready to wear. It is made from cotton silk and features an embroidered design. The fit is smart. Dress Type: Kurta (Top) Fit: Smart...
Men - Kurta 11292313
SMLXL
$79.95$39.98
Men’s kurta top in cotton silk with a smart fit. The design is embroidered and the garment is stitched and ready to wear from S&T Men. Dress type: Kurta (Top)...
Men - Kurta 11292309
SMLXL
$79.95$39.98
This men's kurta features a smart fit design, made from cotton silk fabric. It includes embroidered details for a refined look. The kurta is fully stitched and ready to wear,...
Men - Kurta 11292308
SMLXL
$79.95$39.98
Men's kurta (top) in cotton silk with an embroidered design. The fit is smart, giving a tailored silhouette while staying comfortable. It is part of the stitched collection and arrives...
Men - Kurta 11292307
SMLXL
$79.95$39.98
Men's kurta top. Fit: smart. Fabric: cotton silk. Design: embroidered. Collection: stitched. Status: stitched and ready to wear. Brand: S&T Men. The kurta is produced as stitched to reflect the...
Men - Kurta 11292305
SMLXL
$79.95$39.98
Men's kurta (top) in smart fit. Made from cotton silk fabric. The design features embroidery. It is stitched and ready to wear. Dress Type: Kurta (Top) Fit: Smart Fit Fabric:...
Men - Kurta 11292304
SMLXL
$79.95$39.98
This is a stitched men’s kurta (top) in a cotton-silk blend. It uses a smart fit for comfort. The embroidery adds detail. The garment is stitched and ready to wear....
Men - Kurta 11292303
SMLXL
$79.95$39.98
Men's kurta in cotton silk. Dress type: kurta (top). Fit: smart fit. Design: embroidered. Brand: S&T Men. Collection: stitched. Status: stitched—ready to wear. Stitched and ready to wear out of...
Men - Kurta 11252327
SMLXL
$99.95$49.98
Product: men's kurta (top). Code: 11252327. Dress type: kurta. Fit: smart fit. Fabric: Maysori. Pants fabric: N/A. Design: embroidered. Collection: stitched. Status: stitched and ready to wear. Brand: S&T Men....
Men - Kurta 11252323
SMLXL
$99.95$49.98
Men's kurta top, smart fit. Product code 11252323. Fabric is Maysori. Design: embroidered across the front. Collection: Stitched. Status: stitched and ready to wear. Brand: S&T Men. The item is...
Men - Kurta 11252316
SMLXL
$99.95$49.98
Type: Kurta (Top) for men. Fit: Smart. Fabric: Maysori. Design: Embroidered. Status: Stitched, ready to wear. Brand: S&T Men. Collection: Stitched. Colors may vary slightly from the product image. Includes...
Men - Kurta 11252313
SMLXL
$99.95$49.98
Men's kurta top with a smart fit. Made from Maysori fabric. The design features embroidery on the front. Part of the stitched collection and sold as a stitched, ready-to-wear garment....
Men - Kurta 06202311
SMLXL
$34.95$17.48
Men's kurta by S&T Men, stitched and ready to wear. Khaddi Cotton provides a breathable base. The design features a collar and hand embroidery. This top is cut for a...

Stylish Pakistani Men’s Clothes In USA

Pakistani men's clothing comes in a wide variety and is stylish. Every man who enjoys ethnic attire should have a selection of traditional Pakistani men's apparel in his closet. Pakistani men's clothing is unique because it frequently uses incredibly soft, light fabrics that are very comfortable, sturdy, resilient, and durable. The glamour of these ensembles can be increased by using fashionable color palettes and ethnic embroidery. Wearing well-tailored and wealthy men's Pakistani apparel exudes wealth and royalty since clothes symbolize your position and are...